Comments for 'Til All Are One http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog Freedom is the right of all sentient beings Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:28:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 Comment on vrms meme by Mr T http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/09/15/vrms-meme/#comment-11203 Mr T Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:38:58 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=214#comment-11203 so??? are you going on the bimbo & the nerd show or what? so??? are you going on the bimbo & the nerd show or what?

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by wtf http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10770 wtf Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:32:32 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10770 Don't be dense. The term refers to women who treat looks as more important than intelligence. It clearly was never intended to describe all women. Stop victimising women. It's patronising and sexist. Don’t be dense. The term refers to women who treat looks as more important than intelligence. It clearly was never intended to describe all women. Stop victimising women. It’s patronising and sexist.

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by Lemonshark http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10747 Lemonshark Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:55:39 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10747 Oh, right, you missed the part where I said I WASN'T defending the show. A slur is a slur, regardless of what the person using the slur is attempting to accomplish. He's right about the show AND he shouldn't use a term demeaning to women when writing about it. Really, having both statements be true is just too ungraspable of a concept?? Oh, right, you missed the part where I said I WASN’T defending the show.

A slur is a slur, regardless of what the person using the slur is attempting to accomplish. He’s right about the show AND he shouldn’t use a term demeaning to women when writing about it.

Really, having both statements be true is just too ungraspable of a concept??

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by hmm http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10743 hmm Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:34:20 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10743 @Lemonshark let me get this straight... The show deliberately hires women who are unintelligent and get by only by their looks. They don't try to hide that. The author here is opposing the pushing of such stereotypes. Yet you criticise him for being sexist??? How does that even remotely make sense? It looks to me that he's defending gender equality. It's fem extremists like you that make reasonable people look bad. Makes me lose interest in the whole idea. @Lemonshark

let me get this straight…

The show deliberately hires women who are unintelligent and get by only by their looks. They don’t try to hide that.

The author here is opposing the pushing of such stereotypes.

Yet you criticise him for being sexist???

How does that even remotely make sense? It looks to me that he’s defending gender equality.

It’s fem extremists like you that make reasonable people look bad. Makes me lose interest in the whole idea.

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by Lemonshark http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10715 Lemonshark Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:17:06 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10715 Its /seems/ you're making an assumption. Specifically that I watch, or have watched the show. Sorry. Haven't. You're reaching. Nor have I said anything to defend the show. Again, you're reaching. What I find offensive is the slur against women that he used. It has no place in the Ubuntu community, and we have been called upon by many community members to stand against it when we see it. So no, this isn't about alternate uses of the word in previous centuries, your wished for defense by me of a program I haven't seen, reality tv show scripts or any other "No, look over here...!" issues you wish to bring up. This is about his use of a female slur on Planet Ubuntu. Its /seems/ you’re making an assumption. Specifically that I watch, or have watched the show. Sorry. Haven’t. You’re reaching. Nor have I said anything to defend the show. Again, you’re reaching.

What I find offensive is the slur against women that he used. It has no place in the Ubuntu community, and we have been called upon by many community members to stand against it when we see it.

So no, this isn’t about alternate uses of the word in previous centuries, your wished for defense by me of a program I haven’t seen, reality tv show scripts or any other “No, look over here…!” issues you wish to bring up. This is about his use of a female slur on Planet Ubuntu.

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by RussellCoker http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10712 RussellCoker Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:41:04 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10712 Lemonshark: It seems that you're not offended by a show that specialises in hiring women who are former employees of Playboy, Hooters, and similar organisations for cheap entertainment. You're not offended that "stupid" (*) actions of such women are regarded as amusing. But the word "bimbo" offends you. For the phrase "I find X stupidity funny", what do you think would be a good value of "X" that avoids offence? (*) NB In TV shows there is a lot of scripted content. Even when the participants are not given specific instructions in "reality" shows, they can work out what to do to get a result that they desire. It's reasonable to assume that some of the supposedly stupid actions of women in such shows are acts. Lemonshark: It seems that you’re not offended by a show that specialises in hiring women who are former employees of Playboy, Hooters, and similar organisations for cheap entertainment. You’re not offended that “stupid” (*) actions of such women are regarded as amusing. But the word “bimbo” offends you.

For the phrase “I find X stupidity funny”, what do you think would be a good value of “X” that avoids offence?

(*) NB In TV shows there is a lot of scripted content. Even when the participants are not given specific instructions in “reality” shows, they can work out what to do to get a result that they desire. It’s reasonable to assume that some of the supposedly stupid actions of women in such shows are acts.

]]> Comment on Dancing with the Devil in the pale moonlight by twiter http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2008/01/26/dancing-with-the-devil-in-the-pale-moonlight/#comment-10708 twiter Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:49:12 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2008/01/26/dancing-with-the-devil-in-the-pale-moonlight/#comment-10708 This is no less curious than the previous post This is no less curious than the previous post

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by tretle http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10706 tretle Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:55:32 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10706 I may be pushing it here but is it possible that so many people are taking comedies too seriously? I love the IT Crowd and The Big Bang Theory, the second of which is probably my favorite American TV show. I can relate to the guys as I have been in plenty of situations in pubs or with friends where I was excited about something and tried and explain to someone and ended up getting a weird look followed by the phrase "stop talking about geeky stuff I don't understand". I think The Big Bang Theory does a good job of taking the piss out of smart people and not so smart people and it was a breath of fresh air from the overused sitcom concepts and dumb jokes which we have been exposed to for so long from the media. Smart people are not immune to character defects, if you cant take the piss out of yourself every now and then then I feel bad for you. I may be pushing it here but is it possible that so many people are taking comedies too seriously? I love the IT Crowd and The Big Bang Theory, the second of which is probably my favorite American TV show. I can relate to the guys as I have been in plenty of situations in pubs or with friends where I was excited about something and tried and explain to someone and ended up getting a weird look followed by the phrase “stop talking about geeky stuff I don’t understand”.
I think The Big Bang Theory does a good job of taking the piss out of smart people and not so smart people and it was a breath of fresh air from the overused sitcom concepts and dumb jokes which we have been exposed to for so long from the media.
Smart people are not immune to character defects, if you cant take the piss out of yourself every now and then then I feel bad for you.

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by Lemonshark http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10704 Lemonshark Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:27:43 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10704 According to Wikipedia Bimbo "_IS_ a term that emerged in popular English language usage in the early 20th century to describe an often physically attractive, unintelligent woman" You can attempt to divert attention from his use of the slur by talking about how the word once meant something else early last century but its clear from the context that he meant the contemporary English meaning of the word. Thats a slur against women and exactly the type of offensive behavior we in the Ubuntu called upon to address. Again please be more sensitive in your use of language in the Ubuntu community. According to Wikipedia Bimbo “_IS_ a term that emerged in popular English language usage in the early 20th century to describe an often physically attractive, unintelligent woman”

You can attempt to divert attention from his use of the slur by talking about how the word once meant something else early last century but its clear from the context that he meant the contemporary English meaning of the word. Thats a slur against women and exactly the type of offensive behavior we in the Ubuntu called upon to address.

Again please be more sensitive in your use of language in the Ubuntu community.

]]> Comment on Bimbo and the Nerd? by RussellCoker http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/2009/08/30/bimbo-and-the-nerd/#comment-10695 RussellCoker Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:01:03 +0000 http://www.dhanapalan.com/blog/?p=210#comment-10695 I watched half an episode of the "Big Bang Theory", it was painful. The representation of geeks was an awful caricature that possibly resembles the mental image is maintained by high school bullies. "The IT Crowd" is a good show, while it is of course exaggerated for comic effect it does have an adequate basis in reality. In terms of TV shows that are supposedly about teaching people, there is often a severe conflict between the desire for LULZ and the aim of teaching, and LULZ usually wins... Lemonshark: According to the Wikipedia page the word "bimbo" is derived from the Italian word for a young boy and it's original use in English was to refer to males. I watched half an episode of the “Big Bang Theory”, it was painful. The representation of geeks was an awful caricature that possibly resembles the mental image is maintained by high school bullies. “The IT Crowd” is a good show, while it is of course exaggerated for comic effect it does have an adequate basis in reality.

In terms of TV shows that are supposedly about teaching people, there is often a severe conflict between the desire for LULZ and the aim of teaching, and LULZ usually wins…

Lemonshark: According to the Wikipedia page the word “bimbo” is derived from the Italian word for a young boy and it’s original use in English was to refer to males.

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